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Are the New Vaccines a Path to Death or Dissability? Or Are They an Answer to Prevent or Reduce the Effects of Infection.


There are those who argue against, urge caution, and those who are in favor. To see some of the views in favor click here



This picture conveys what a lot of people think is in the vaccine - disability or even death. They see the worse. The thing to do is to look at BOTH views, learn as much as you can, and then decide, weighing the pros and cons, the risks in NOT taking the vaccine [especially if your are a senior] and the risks IN taking the vaccine.


What we are trying to do is to provide a balance of views without trying to discredit either side, either the experts in favor of taking the new vaccines or those experts who argue against taking the vaccine, or at least taking it at this time.



11-28-2020 Here is  Why You Should Skip the Covid Vaccine, by Mike Whitney, 3,000 words, 461 comments, 136 new as of 12-7-2020


See comment 453 and around this and see this video

Dr. Carrie Madej, D.O  This video I posted in dropbox/unz/v

The above link takes you to the video's web page where there will be other videos and additional informationi.


Dr. Carrie Madej with Dr. Andrew Kaufman on vx , hydrogel, and secret government programs, mp3 audio


It should be noted that this video was produced Sept. 30, 2020, BEFORE the vaccines were fully produced and tested. So, some or much of the information as it pertains to taking the vaccine may not be valid. It is something to consider when watching the video.




 • 3,000 WORDS • 461 COMMENTS • 136 NEW •

"The world has bet the farm on vaccines as the solution to the pandemic, but the trials are not focused on answering the questions many might assume they are."
Peter Doshi, associate editor of the British Medical Journal and assistant professor of pharmaceutical health services research at the University of Maryland School of Pharmacy

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits."
Albert Einstein

The new Covid vaccines will make billions of dollars for the big pharmaceutical companies, but here's what they won't do:The vaccines will not cure Covid

The vaccines will not prevent people from contracting Covid

The vaccines will not prevent Covid-related hospitalizations

The vaccines will not prevent Covid-caused deaths

Now, I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, "If the vaccine does not protect me from getting Covid (or dying from Covid), then why should I take it?"

And the answer is: "You shouldn't. It makes no sense at all, especially in view of the fact that new vaccines pose considerable risks to one's health and well-being."

"Risks," you say? "No one said anything about risks. I thought this wonderful new Covid cure was entirely risk-free; just take the jab and– Presto– life goes back to normal."

Wrong. There are risks, significant risks that the media and the medical establishment have papered-over with their ridiculous Happy Talk about "miracle" vaccines. But all of this is just public relations hype designed to hoodwink people into injecting themselves with a dubious substance that does NOT do what it's supposed to do, and which DOES pose serious long-term risks to one's health.

So, let's dig a little deeper into this question of risks and see what are the experts saying. Check out this excerpt from an "Open Letter From: UK Medical Freedom Alliance To: The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization… for COVID-19 in the UK.":

"It is worrying that recent Parliamentary discussions seem to not attach proper weight to any concern about vaccine risks and the right to informed consent, while focusing solely on strategies to increase the uptake of vaccines in the general population.

Inadequate Assessment of the Public Health Risk from a Covid Vaccine

In a recent letter to the British Medical Journal (BMJ), physician Arvind Joshi warned against the disaster that could result from this misguided policy and outlined the serious risks involved to the public and other serious issues that are being taken if a Covid Vaccine is rushed out without thorough and adequate safety and efficacy testing:

"Adverse effects like Subacute Sclerosing Pan Encephalitis, Ascending Polyneuritis, Myopathies, Autoimmune Diseases, and rarer chance of triggering development of malignancies are most dreaded possibilities."..."The rush for the Vaccines should not lead to disaster." (Note: There is a more comprehensive list of potential 'bad outcomes' in the link to the article.)

Virus-vectored and genetically engineered vaccines could undergo recombination or hybridization with unpredictable outcomes.…Previous attempts to develop coronavirus and other vaccines e.g., RSV and dengue, have been hampered by the problem of 'antibody dependent enhanced immunity'(ADEI), which has led to severe illness and deaths in the animals and human subjects involved in the trials28. This phenomenon only becomes apparent after vaccination, when the subject is exposed to wild virus at some point in the future. Worryingly, the Covid Vaccine trials have not been conducted in a way to exclude the possibility of this serious sequalae occurring months or years after vaccination...

Late onset adverse vaccine effects such as Subacute Sclerosing Pan Encephalitis (SSPE),Ascending Polyneuritis, Myopathies, Autoimmune Diseases, Infertility and Cancers cannot be ruled out with short duration trials." ("Open Letter From: UK Medical Freedom Alliance To: The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization… for COVID-19 in the UK.")

It's all very technical, but the truth is plain to see: There are serious risks associated with taking the Covid-19 vaccine. Most vaccine recipients will experience only minor aches and pains but some will undoubtedly get quite ill and permanently damage their health. No one really knows for sure because there have been no long-term trials. The Covid vaccine has been fast-tracked from Day 1. So, the question is: Do the benefits outweigh the risks. And, in this case, they clearly don't. The chances of getting violently sick or dying from Covid are very slight, (IFR is 1 in 400) while the (potential) adverse effects from the vaccine are spelled out above. Why would anyone roll the dice on a vaccine that does not prevent one from contracting Covid, does not protect one from hospitalization, and will not prevent one from dying? That's just not a good tradeoff. Here's more from an article at Forbes:

"Prevention of infection must be a critical endpoint…(But) Prevention of infection is not a criterion for success for any of these vaccines. In fact, their endpoints all require confirmed infections and all those they will include in the analysis for success, the only difference being the severity of symptoms between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. Measuring differences amongst only those infected by SARS-CoV-2 underscores the implicit conclusion that the vaccines are not expected to prevent infection, only modify symptoms of those infected"…

"We all expect an effective vaccine to prevent serious illness if infected. Three of the vaccine protocols…do not require that their vaccine prevent serious disease only that they prevent moderate symptoms which may be as mild as cough, or headache." ("Covid-19 Vaccine Protocols Reveal That Trials Are Designed To Succeed"Forbes)

Can you see what's going on? "Prevention" is not even a primary objective. The standard for success in these trials is whether the vaccine mitigates Covid symptoms in people who test positive. But who cares about symptoms? What people care about is dying. That's why people are so eager to get vaccinated, because they think it will eliminate the threat of dying.

This is a critical point, and one that is well worth mulling over.


Because it helps to illustrate how the vaccine campaign is built on a foundation of lies and deception. For example, when the drug companies boast that their product is "95% effective", it does NOT mean that– if you get vaccinated– you will be immune to Covid. It doesn't even mean that you won't get violently ill and die. All it means is that the vaccine reduced the symptoms of some of the people in the trials who tested positive.

Did you know that?

Of course, you didn't. You thought that if you took the vaccine, you'd be protected from Covid, because that is the logical assumption that anyone would make. Most people equate vaccines with immunity. The drug companies know that which is why they're exploiting people's ignorance and deliberately obfuscating the truth. They want people to continue to believe that vaccination is a protective shield that will save them from sickness and death. But it's not. It's a bunch of baloney.

Bottom line: Vaccine "effectiveness" is not measured in terms of "preventing infection". It relates to the vaccine's impact on symptoms. Here's more from Forbes:

"One of the more immediate questions a trial needs to answer is whether a vaccine prevents infection. If someone takes this vaccine, are they far less likely to become infected with the virus? These trials all clearly focus on eliminating symptoms of Covid-19, and not infections themselves….

It appears that all the pharmaceutical companies assume that the vaccine will never prevent infection. Their criteria for approval is the difference in symptoms between an infected control group and an infected vaccine group. …


To continue reading the entire article Click on the Link above or here: 1hr 18 min

7-23-2020 Heated Vaccine Debate - Kennedy Jr. vs Dershowitz


Here is the bottom line.  Regardless of whether you trust the government or not, if Federal or State government's mandate that you MUST take one of the new COVID-19 vaccines – you are without a choice.  And appealing to the Supreme Court will avail you [accomplish you] NOTHING.

It is a worthwhile video to watch in as much as IF a mandate is imposed, it renders mute [you can speak up but it will be as if your words were not heard, ie., mute] your personal desires in the matter.

The above link will take you to the complete web page where you can read a length bio of the two above contestants and many many comments. But again, if law mandates that you MUST take the shots - you are without recourse. In other words, take them or leave the country or go hide somewhere in the Rocky Mountains.



12-8-2020 The Covid-19 Vaccine and the U.S. Policy of Depopulation, by Ava Muhammad, 2,000 words, 188 comments

Part I of a series on the Covid-19 vaccine

"We will not accept your vaccine so you can slow down, because whenever you bring it out, it's for your people. You give it to them because we are not accepting death. You are the very representative of death itself: the pale horse. Everywhere you have gone in the world, hell went right behind you. We are sick of hell and we are sick of death. So all of you that have made a covenant with death, your covenant is going to be annulled … your agreement with hell will be broken."—The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan

In addition to the above words lifted from the Criterion on July 4, 2020, Minister Farrakhan said it would be a declaration of war on all of us if the government tried to physically force us to take the vaccine. Within days after he spoke, the U.S. government completely changed its strategy for getting the country to take the Covid-19 vaccination. It pivoted from threats to persuasion, using Black medical and health care professionals, politicians, educators and clergy members to urge our people to act in opposition to Divine Commandments from Allah (God).

Now that the vaccines are ready, an elevated level of fear of the pandemic has been created to make the people believe they must have the vaccine. Stoking fear and ignorance, various methods have been intensified, not the least of which is monopolization of perception through a 24-hour news cycle, censoring dissenting views and creating a barren environment by prolonging or returning to isolation, closed schools, closed religious institutions, limiting exposure to fresh air and insisting that people stay away from their own families. All of this is being advanced on a claim of scientific and medical authority.

We cannot examine and analyze the Covid-19 vaccine without a knowledge of the climate in which it is being produced. In his 2013 series The Time and What Must Be Done [ His series is available on ], the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan provided extensive, documented proof that the policy of the United States Government is to rid the Earth of the indigenous people. The overarching goal is to cull the population of our planet by two to three billion. This includes reducing the United States population by 150 million. Why? White people see their numbers going down and the numbers of the indigenous people, Black, Red and Brown, going up. In this climate, under this policy, what can we expect from a vaccine that is unalike anything previously made?

The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan has devoted his life to the goal of freedom, justice and equality for the descendants of slaves in America and ultimately for all of humanity. He has suffered greatly for his efforts. But he has been rewarded with the love and complete trust of our people. He is a Divinely-Guided servant of Allah (God) and his Teacher, the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad. When Minister Farrakhan issues a directive to our people it is not coming from him it is from God coming through him. When we dismiss his words we do so at our own peril. He spoke on the Covid-19 vaccine—several times—in his Message entitled 'The Criterion', July 4, 2020, including the excerpt above.


Go to the link above to continue reading the article in its entirety. It has 188 comments. They are worth taking the time to read.


Brother Ava Muhammad is not the sole authority on whether the government is untaking a subtle program of extermination. If it is, it woud not be aimed just at the Black race, but rather all races. And, inasmuch as many high officials in government are themselves taking the COVID-19 vaccine, it sort of argues against what Brother Ava Muhammad asserts.

See some of the arguments in favor of taking the vaccine.

Arguments FOR taking the vaccine - Various articles - Link


The Criterion – Minister Louis Farrakhan - July 4, 2020

The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan addressed the current state of affairs in America, the world, the coronavirus global pandemic and other critical subjects. Minister Farrakhan's message, "The Criterion," was delivered on Independence Day, which also marks the 90th anniversary of the existence of the Nation of Islam in America. It was his first public address since February.

Issues regarding the corona virus begin at about 2 hours when Minister Loius Farrakan poses as series of important questions by asking "...why is"

Tucker Carlson Tonight, December 18, 2020, First 16 Minute Segment - You Will Want to Watch Here, Again and Again

Friday, December 18, 2020, 8 Days left before we remember the birth of Jesus Christ

Question: Has the government and the CDC selected senior citizens, those for instance on Medicare, and our black citizens [people of color] for "Special Treatment" in the form of calculated neglect? How? By denying them access to the new COVID-19 vaccines by labeling them "Non-Essentials Human Beings" and by classifying them as such, putting them at the end of the line for those first receiving the vaccines.

The most vulnerable citizens to the COVID-9 virus are the elderly and black people [people of color]. Yet, it appears the CDC has classified bankers, our most privileged [ the Elite Class ] citizens in our country - "the Essentials Ones" and therefore they get to go to the head of the line in receiving the vaccine treatment first. As Jack Parr of yester-years would say, I Kid You Not!

How so? This very issue was brought up tonight in the first 16 minutes of Tucker Carlson Tonight. At a minimum, our black citizens and seniors may have cause for alarm if even the suggestion of such a "special section of human beings" is being considered by the CDC and those in authority.

Is our country, the Land of Liberty and Freedom and Justice for All - quietly implementing a new Final Solution for our Seniors and black citizens [people of color] ? On a big enough scale, as they may be envisioning [reimagining perhaps?, it woud indeed solve the future funding problems of Medicare and Social Security.

And as Minister Louis Farrakhan has eloquently pointed out in his message of July 4, 2020, ... (paraphrasing)

... as the white population of the country significantly decreases - the black population increases. The black people are advancing - the white people are retreating, not achieving anywhere near the birth rate necessary to keep them in the majority. Thus, power and control is shifting to what are today the minority people, the "people of color". This poses an intolerable threat to the Elites, the white power structure. They must stamp out by any means the "black threat" to their control and power.

Note: All this above is pure speculation and is not addressed or implied by Tucker Carlson in his Friday address and should not be construed as being so. However, Brother Ava Muhammad's published article, as mentioned above, does address the thrust of this speculation. He could be right. It's possible.

Here is the first 16 minute segement of Tucker Carlson Tonight (Fox Broadcasting)


Yes, Let me See What Tucker Has To Say

Tucker Carlson Tonight, December 18, 2020, First 16 Minute Segment

Hard to believe that this is happening in America

Quench Your Thirst and Listen & Watch the Whole Thing 40 minutes: This will take you to the actual page

The Next Link is the Actual Webpage where you can read the comments.


12-19-2020 Alteration to the above: From a CNN news feed, Dr. Fauci did in fact say that ALL would be vaccinated. However, the questions raised by Tucker Carlson are still there: In what order will the vaccines be administered? Will the most vulnerable take first priority or will they go to the back of the bus and wait their turn.

From the CNN website listed next:

"We're in a life threatening pandemic. We have no defense. So, for most people, they should absolutely get it, there's very, very few cases that you could argue someone shouldn't get it."

"Here's what we know so far about who should, and, possibly shouldn't, get a Covid-19 vaccine."

People with vaccine allergies

The FDA put only one group in the category of those who should not get the vaccine: people who have a known history of a severe allergic reaction to any component of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

(CNN)The Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine being rolled out across the US should be safe for just about anyone -- even the frailest elderly people. 



Here is the short video clip, 1 min, 24 sec.


12-16-2020 Here is a report from NBC of a person who took the the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine and reported side effects, allergic reactions. It is too early to know whether this will be a common reaction until large numbers of people have been vacinated. To read the entire NBC article, go to the link next.

12-16-2020 Severe allergic reaction to Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine reported in Alaska. Reported on Internet. 

See link above for full article.

NBC News


Severe allergic reaction to Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine reported in Alaska

A health care worker at the Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau, Alaska, developed a severe allergic reaction shortly after receiving the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine Tuesday evening, and had to be hospitalized overnight.


A health care worker at the Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau, Alaska, developed a severe allergic reaction shortly after receiving the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine Tuesday evening, and had to be hospitalized overnight.


During a media briefing Wednesday, health officials said the middle-aged woman had no history of allergies and had never experienced anaphylaxis, a severe and life-threatening allergic reaction.


Bartlett Regional Hospital officials said all 96 of its workers who received the vaccine Tuesday were observed for 30 minutes after the shot. The woman starting feeling flushed about 10 minutes into that observation period, and took Benadryl, an antihistamine.


However, her symptoms progressed to an elevated heart rate and shortness of breath, and was sent to the hospital's emergency department.

As of Wednesday morning, the woman was off all medications, and was expected to be discharged Wednesday evening.

Pfizer said in a statement that the company is "working with local health authorities to assess" the reaction that occurred in Alaska, and will "closely monitor all reports suggestive of serious allergic reactions following vaccination and update labeling language if needed."

….. Butler said the Alaska case is the only allergic reaction to the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine reported in the United States so far.

….. Allergic reactions to vaccines or other medications are rare, but do occur. Any facility qualified to administer vaccines is equipped with emergency epinephrine (known to many as an EpiPen) in the event of severe reactions.

….. Despite her reaction and subsequent hospitalization, health officials said, the health care worker "was enthusiastic that she got the vaccine," specifically about the benefits it might eventually offer her.

….. Still, Butler said the woman will be advised to skip the second dose.




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